ERIN CARLSON RIVERA: [00:00:00] Welcome to Practicing Connection. I'm Erin, and today we are talking about practicing generosity in our relationships.
This episode is part of our From The Archive series, so you'll be hearing Jessica and Bob dive into this topic later in the episode. I've really enjoyed listening to our archives and selecting episodes to share with you all.
Often I will pitch Jessica an idea for a Practicast only to find out it's something we already have a recording of in our archives. This is one of those episodes.
Every time I go and listen thinking, “Well, maybe I can just rewrite it.” But honestly, the episodes are so thoughtfully put together, and the practices are so helpful to me personally that I find myself wanting to just pass them right along to you.
In the spirit of that, I want to just provide a little bit of framework for you guys before we dig in. We often talk a lot about what it takes to collaborate with new people, and sometimes our tools can get really complicated. [00:01:00] figuring out how to be generous in your relationships is one of those basic things that is simple, if not easy, but it can make such a big difference.
I love the reflection that Bob guides us through in this episode. It is not complicated, but the questions are really good at challenging us to be honest with ourselves about what our expectations actually are and how we're showing up in our relationships. I hope you enjoy this episode and I'll see you on the other side.
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JESSICA BECKENDORF: Yourself as a generous collaborator, research consistently points to the power of generosity in building trustful long-term working relationships. Yet we are often hesitant to risk leading with generosity. Hi everyone. This is Jessica, and welcome to this week's Practicing Connection podcast, where we highlight a specific practice you can use in your life and work.
This week's practice is [00:02:00] all about generosity. Making time for generosity can build trust, which is a key ingredient to collaborative relationships. While engaging in acts of generosity can be vulnerable, the benefits are too big to ignore. My practicing connection co-host Bob Bertsch, will be guiding you through a practice related to generosity later in this episode.
But first, we'll learn a little more about generosity in general. Hi, Bob.
BOB BERTSCH: Hey Jessica, I'm looking forward to this conversation. Generosity is one of those pillars of the working out loud process, which was important process to both of us. I know. So I'm anxious to talk about it.
JESSICA BECKENDORF: Well, I'd like to start with connecting generosity to collaboration.
How does generosity play a role in collaborative efforts?
BOB BERTSCH: Well, I think there are a couple of ways generosity plays a role in collaboration. The first is in its role in building trust. In order for people to cooperate, they have to have some level of trust in each other. [00:03:00] So when we first encounter someone new, there's often uncertainty because we can't predict how that person will behave, and as a result, we don't know how to behave in that person's presence.
So approaching that first interaction with generosity provides a foundation for trust. It demonstrates a view of others that's giving and assumes positive intent on their part. We're social creatures, so that generosity that you extend is likely to be reciprocated. Research has shown people very precisely reciprocate the degree of cooperation that they received from the other in the past interaction.
So with a giving attitude and an assumption in favor of positive intent, as the basis of the relationship, trust is more likely to be developed because that generosity is likely to be reciprocated. So the second role generosity plays in collaboration is in [00:04:00] mediating social dilemmas, like when there is uncertainty, disagreement, or maybe a perceived gap in reciprocity.
The social dilemmas are gonna be part of any collaboration at some point, or any relationship really at some point. Research by Clap Wick and Van Lang has shown these social dilemmas can be challenged by what they call negative noise. And what they mean by that are mistakes that cause actual outcomes to be worse than they were intended to be.
And an example would be like accidentally saying the wrong thing. Many of us have done that before, or forgetting to respond to an email, right? Those are just mistakes, but they impact, you know, the outcome. They found that this negative noise is more challenging if you're in a transactional or tit for tat strategy in terms of the relationship, and it was less challenging in relationships, [00:05:00] grounded in generosity.
JESSICA BECKENDORF: That is so interesting and I definitely have been the person who has forgotten to get back to emails and, and things like that. So I'm curious to learn more about why it's helpful to understand our motivations behind our acts of generosity. Can you share a little bit about that?
BOB BERTSCH: Sure. So that research that I just mentioned about negative noise, being a bigger challenge in transactional or tit for tat strategies than in those grounded in generosity.
If we're going to take advantage of knowing that we need to know which strategy we're using, and we think we do. But the problem is sometimes we think we're being generous. But we actually have expectations we would associate with a tit for tat strategy. John Stepper wrote about a wonderful example we can use to try and think about this and examine it, and the example is holding the door open for [00:06:00] someone.
So on the surface, it seems like a completely generous strategy. But when you think about it more deeply, we often find that we have expectations of that being a transaction. For instance, like how do you feel when you hold the door for someone, but they don't acknowledge you at all? They don't say thanks.
They don't smile. They don't make eye contact. Do you feel differently about the action?
JESSICA BECKENDORF: Isn't it? Isn't that them just being a jerk? I'm just kidding.
BOB BERTSCH: That could be too.
JESSICA BECKENDORF: No, no, no, no!
BOB BERTSCH: Or if you hold the door for someone upon entering a building and then you end up, you know, coincidentally exiting together and they don't hold the door for you.
If you find that you are expecting some kind of reciprocation, then you might not have had a completely generous strategy in mind, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just a different strategy, right? Holding the door is just a helpful example. Sometimes we think we're being generous with others in our [00:07:00] work.
When we're really expecting reciprocity, right? And if we aren't clear with ourselves about our expectations, then we can't be clear with our coworkers and let them know that, hey, we're expecting some kind of. Reciprocity, especially if we're presenting our actions as being completely generous, right? So that lack of clarity can have a really negative impact on trust and in turn cooperation.
So I think that's why it's important to kind of know, are we motivated here purely by generosity or are we expecting some kind of transaction?
JESSICA BECKENDORF: What are the things that can get in the way of having a generous strategy? Why is it sometimes difficult to be generous or to lead with that strategy versus thinking in a reciprocal way?
Again, like you said, there's, it's nothing, not, it's not that there's anything wrong with thinking in a reciprocal way, but, you know, [00:08:00] what gets in the way of us leading with that generosity instead?
BOB BERTSCH: So a few things come to mind for that. One is relevant past experience. Note ‘relevant.’ So we might not be generous with someone because we have kind of learned not to.
They've taken advantage of our generosity in the past, so we might be able to be generous with that person again, if something has changed for them or maybe something's changed for us or the context is different. Or we could try being generous with them in kind of lower risk ways to see if we can find our way back to trust.
But that's just based on a, you know, past experience. So sometimes we find ourselves not being generous because, you know, we got burned by that person. That's what makes it relevant, by the way. And then finally, another reason that it can be hard is that we often misapply past experience.
You know, we have had, many of us have had previous experiences of being hurt by those that we [00:09:00] trusted, and that can make it difficult to be generous with someone new. So I think that's misapplied. I think because we're not basing that on someone new. We're basing it on somebody who did it before.
Right. That's why I called it misapplication. So I think practicing generosity and reflecting on our acts of generosity can be helpful in overcoming those kinds of barriers that you asked about.
JESSICA BECKENDORF: Thank you. I think it's time for us to practice this and I think this is a reflective practice.
So could you please walk us through that?
BOB BERTSCH: So I've adapted this practice from questions shared by Susan Mazza in her blog post, Genuine Generosity, and we'll link that from the show notes and from the words of many other teachers over the years. I'm grateful for their generosity in sharing their wisdom with me, and I'm glad to share this with you.
So. Let's start by recalling a time when [00:10:00] you believed you had acted generously and found you were less than satisfied with the outcome. Try to bring to mind the place you were, the action you took, the other person or people involved, and the feeling of dissatisfaction.
So now that you've brought that to mind, think about what you really wanted or expected in return for your generosity. Be honest with yourself here. This is an opportunity to consider what motivates your generosity and why this particular situation left you feeling unsatisfied. Now with that experience still firmly in mind, consider how it would've been different if you had gotten what you wanted.[00:11:00]
What would that have looked like? How would it have been different for you and how do you think it would've been different for the recipient of your generosity?
Next. Think about the beliefs and values that you hold that contributed to this experience. If your experience does not match what you consciously think you believe, then you'll know there's work to be done to align your beliefs and values with your actions. And finally, now that we've kind of considered that situation, think about one way that you can be genuinely generous this week.
How can you let go of your expectations for reciprocity of any kind and just be generous.
JESSICA BECKENDORF: [00:12:00] Wow. Thanks so much for guiding us through that practice. I actually practiced it while you were saying it. I really appreciate that, Bob. Thank you so much.
BOB BERTSCH: You're welcome. I really enjoy talking about generosity and these kinds of ideas and it was my pleasure to share that.
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ERIN CARLSON RIVERA: That's it for this Practicast. Thank you for joining us for the simple but challenging reflection. I hope it helps you be more generous, not only with others, but also with yourself.
If you enjoyed this episode, please consider sharing it with a friend or a colleague. We'll be back next week. Until then, keep practicing.
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